dreadedcandiru2 (dreadedcandiru2) wrote,
dreadedcandiru2
dreadedcandiru2

How not to give Elly advice.....

As we saw the other day, Annie tried to do something impossible and give Elly Patterson advice. As we've seen over the years, you'd have to be a miracle worker to give Elly advice and make it stick. I know that I make a lot of noise about how Elly is still very much a huffy, angry little child who deliberately confuses constructive criticism with persecution because she's too angry and frightened all the time to admit that people can criticize her without wanting to ruin her because they hate her. The problem is that this need to scream a shrill, defiant scream in the face of having her competence questioned is not the only reason someone who loves to dish out advice can't take it. This is because there are other standard techniques of advice-giving that don't work on her.

First off, it's always a bad idea to try to get Elly to compare herself to other people or to ask her to see things from their point of view. The blinders on her mind's eye leave her convinced that everyone in the world knows exactly what she knows and only that. The idea that there are things that she doesn't know or things that she's never experienced make as little sense to her as having to sympathize with people who do things that bother her. Since all perspectives are the same (hers), it makes no sense to her that other people might not react to things as she would.

Second, it isn't a very smart thing to ask her to keep her little victories to herself. The woman lives and dies for the approval of others. While this statement might seem to contradict the idea that everyone thinks exactly as she does and are thus as likely to look at her and see a fat, ugly, fat woman who is fat and ugly and unworthy of love and affection and acceptance, having everyone praise her for being thin and beautiful and loveable and worth love and happiness and good things means that for some reason, an evil, conflict-causing MAN has somehow gotten inside her and is lying about her. Telling her to not seek approval is telling her that she's never going to succeed so is a very dumb thing to do.

So is telling her to take things slowly. While she herself loves to tell children to pace themselves, she wants to be thin and gorgeous and worthy of having nice things and love and happiness that her ten pounds, thunder thighs, large rump (but NOT HER STOOPED SHOULDERS THAT ONLY MAKE HER LOOK FAT WHEN SHE ISN'T!!!!) deny her as soon as possible. The idea that things take more than five seconds to accomplish is a bad idea because instant happiness takes too long for a boomer imbecile like her.

Finally, never use self-deprecating humor on a literal-minded dullard like Elly. The Elly of 2014 is still angry at the John of 1982 for getting Ted's directions to his 'humble little cabin' wrong but she's also still angry at Ted for 'lying' about its condition because she doesn't see that the Elly of 1982 was so damned stupid that she made an idiotic assumption owing to an inability to process sarcasm. Trying to jolly Elly into a good-natured acceptance of the certainty of set-backs isn't going to work because her brain tells her that Annie is admitting weakness.
Tags: boomer lens-cap stupidity, educating elly
Subscribe

  • The turd and the gilded cage.

    As I write this, I do so in the knowledge that it's been pretty much ten years since we had to watch April make an ugly fool of herself not admitting…

  • On trees of destiny and heroic dogs.

    As I said yesterday, Mike and April behave in very similar ways. We have the need to fit in, the fear that everyone expects them to just sit down, be…

  • On musical maguffins and endgames.

    As I said in the potted bios, it's obvious that all the characters in the Battle of the Bands series would have different expectations of the end…

  • Post a new comment

    Error

    default userpic

    Your reply will be screened

    Your IP address will be recorded 

    When you submit the form an invisible reCAPTCHA check will be performed.
    You must follow the Privacy Policy and Google Terms of use.
  • 0 comments